Wednesday, October 2, 2013

Some things that have really, honestly been said to me as a vegan and, yeah, with a straight face.

Basically, this can all be summed up as “Why vegans are nutty.”

After my interview on Chicago Public Radio (so, yeah, I’m exploiting this thing for all it’s worth), a bunch of people asked me how I stayed poised when asked about “freeganism” and eating dead deer. How did I remain unruffled? Well, here's the thing: I’ve been tabling and promoting veganism since 1995. In other words, I have probably heard just about everything. If you want a really great opportunity to hone your vegan craft, talking to the public will do it.  You don’t even have to do that, though, because if you are a known vegan, the strange inquiries and statements will come to you, regardless. 

This is just a collection of some random thoughts, questions, free associations and bizarre assertions made to me over the years. I’m guessing that no one was on acid at the time but I can’t be positive of that. What do you hear a lot? Feel free to add some of your own favorites in the comments. 

“You care more about animals than people.”

Also conveyed as:

“What about the homeless?”

“What about the children?”

“What about the homeless children?”

Because we have to carefully measure out our compassion, right? You don’t want to give too much away or you’ll be fresh out the next time you need to reach into your empathy supply bag and then, oh no! It’s empty and you have no choice but to be a big ol’ meanie to the whole world. (In other, less sarcastic words, a compassionate person is a compassionate person is a compassionate person.)

“I went vegan for two weeks and my skin turned green and all my hair fell out.”
You turned into this? That’s kind of awesome. Because if you’re an alien, maybe we actually will succeed in invading the planet and taking everything over more easily.

“Where do you get your vitamins?”
From fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. And you?

"If we didn't eat the animals, they would take over the world."
So that whole supply and demand thing doesn't apply? You are the front line that stands between us being ruthlessly overrun and dominated by chickens and cows? Thank you for your sacrifice as you plow through McNuggets and burgers. You efforts are truly heroic. 

“What about your jeans? Cotton comes from sheep.”
Spoken by a Ringling Brothers Circus employee, who also claimed that elephants stood on their heads “in nature” to frighten predators.

“Your shoes are leather.”
I was wearing Converse All-Stars at the time. So yeah...

“My daughter’s trying to be vegan. Could you talk her out of it?”
Wait, you want me to...what???

“My daughter’s a vegetarian, but she’s not vegan, thank God.”
Yes, that would just be awful.

“Cow produce milk spontaneously, without even needing to be pregnant.”


“You know, cows need to be milked for humane reasons or their udders will explode. I’ve seen it happen.”
Both statements were made to me by someone whose complete authority on the subject hinged on the fact that she was “from Wisconsin.” On a clear night, the exploding udders can be seen all the way into Chicago. I must have missed it.

“Soy turns boys into girls.”
It’s more affordable than sex reassignment surgery and hormones, so what is the problem? Oh, yeah: you might also want to give up dairy if estrogen concerns you. Yes, even “hormone-free” dairy has the hormones of the mother cow.

“Soy is killing our planet!”
Then, yeah, you might want to stop eating farmed animals, the biggest source of soy consumption by far.

“Animals don’t have souls.”
So, putting aside the unprovable, subjective construct of the soul, eating an animal without a so-called soul is evidence that you have one?

“My totem animal is a tiger and my tiger needs meat.”

“Life is death and I think it is arrogant to remove myself from the natural cycle.”
So by getting your organic, plucked chicken at the grocery store, you are participating in the “natural cycle?” Or hunting with a factory-built weapon is participating in the natural cycle? If you get sick, you won’t take medicine either, right? Nature intended for you to get sick. You’d also better hope that muggers don’t consider relieving you of your wallet to be part of the “natural cycle.”

“The Dalai Lama eats meat and by eating the flesh, he helps the animals on their karmic journey so they can come back as good people.”
I bet the animals are very grateful for his noble sacrifice, using his body as a vessel for karmic passage. I am dazzled by your spirituality...

“I only eat happy cows.”
When were they most happy? When their babies were taken away? When they were trucked to the slaughterhouse? When a rod was shot into their brains? When their throats were slashed?

“Milk and eggs are the animals‘ rent for us taking care of them.”
Right, because they are really taking advantage of our generosity and benevolence.

“I tried to give up meat when I was a vegetarian, but I was ‘too floaty’ and I needed meat to be grounded.”
You can’t argue with science.

"My body told me it was time to eat meat again."

Was that your elbow? Or your knees? Was the voice squeaky? Confident? Most important, how long have you been hearing voices?

“I was a vegetarian but then I had a baby and I didn’t want to force my views on anyone.” 
Because parents who take their children to church or raise them as atheists, enroll them in school and teach them not to take what doesn’t belong to them aren’t forcing any beliefs on their children, right?

“I’m not vegan, but my next door neighbor’s nephew’s girlfriend’s best friend was vegan and she got really sick from organ failure. Now she eats meat and she’s recovered.”
Again, sounds very legitimate. 

“I’d be a vegetarian but you have to be really careful about balancing your amino acids every time you eat or you will die.”
I crunch numbers like no one’s business before I eat or I am likely to collapse on the table and suffocate in my quinoa. I don’t know what I’d do without my Mega-2000 Amino Acids Calculator.

“What about the vegetables? Plants feel pain.”
Sigh...I know. Every time I take down my kale for the winter, part of my spirit dies, too.

“I can’t be a vegan because my blood type is O+.”

Said to two longtime O+ vegans.

“God said it was okay.”
And on the seventh day, in His great benevolence, God said: Go forth and eateth, weareth, and enjoyeth the creatures I have imbued with sentience in any manner you conceiveth, o, soul-possessing child of God. And so it shall be. Now smite that swine and passeth the bacon! Go forth and createth more fecal lagoons! Destroy this home I have created for you as you wish.

So, yes, you can see that I am sarcastic. These thoughts run through my head but then I have my straight answers because I know that when most people say these things, they don’t realize how it sounds to us. This is just one part of the cognitive dissonance of being vegan in this world and having to adapt to it. And this is also why vegans are nutty. By the way, where do you get your protein?


  1. You are awesome.This made my day.

  2. ha those are some truly retarded comments, I've had "I hate animals" comment at me which I don't think I'll ever get over..

  3. God said so? Adam and Eve were vegan in the Garden of Eden (they ate from trees!), before the Fall From Grace.

    And cotton comes from sheep?! Can someone please tell that to my ancestors who were slaves?

    Where do these people come from, and when can they go back?

  4. I love this so much. I'm a newish vegan and have heard similar things (mostly from my own family) and I'm not good with the snappy comebacks and usually end up standing there with my mouth hanging open going "wha- wha- huh??" Gotta memorize better material... this entry was awesome.

  5. how about the 'humans didn't fight their way to the 'top of the food chain to eat lettuce and tofu.'

    Uhhmm, the food chain is more like a web, all interconnected... and if you're feeling like king of the hill, go wrestle a lion, swim way out in the ocean, or eat your hamburger raw... eventually Ecoli, a teeny bacteria will take you out.

  6. One of my relatives said to me once, "Oh, fer gawd's sake, if you don't milk a cow their udders will explode!! Are you stupid or something!??" This person grew up on a farm that had one cow they used for milk.

    (OK, it was my mother)

  7. The healthiest families I have ever known are vegan. A vegan diet is probably the most balanced you can find, and I do that without nuts (allergy). No shortage of protein though. Just love my soya milk lattes and vegan cheese and yogurt.

  8. Well said :) The one I love when said to me is my body craves meat, I reply with yes I know mine craves wine, so it must be what your body needs... Come on people really you need to think before engaging ones mouth.

  9. "If God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he build slaughterhouses?"
    Oh yes, the coherence of religion and the Bible. I'm not even going to GO there...


    Hard to pick but two favorites are

    “What about your jeans? Cotton comes from sheep.”
    Spoken by a Ringling Brothers Circus employee, who also claimed that elephants stood on their heads “in nature” to frighten predators.


    “Cow produce milk spontaneously, without even needing to be pregnant.”


    “You know, cows need to be milked for humane reasons or their udders will explode. I’ve seen it happen.”
    Both statements were made to me by someone whose complete authority on the subject hinged on the fact that she was “from Wisconsin.” On a clear night, the exploding udders can be seen all the way into Chicago. I must have missed it.

    Thanks for the giggles!

  11. Ha! If you haven't already, check out

    I feel guilty liking that blog so much... :D

  12. so my pet goat died and i asked my supervisor if i could leave work to meet the backhoe operator to bury my pet, and he says to me, are you going to have a deep pit barbecue? and i'm like do you eat your pets when they die?

    1. Of course! Otherwise all that lovely "meat" would go to waste, don't you know? I even eat my elderly relatives when they die...waste not, want not! :-) {Seriously, my sympathies for your boss being a numbskull.)

  13. Love!! Thank you, Marla.

  14. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Indeed, fellow sarcastic one: indeed.

    Relatedly! We did an episode about this crap, that may be relevant albeit distantly -- if otherwise intelligent people say this kind of bull**** to veg*ns, THERE IS SOMETHING WEIRD GOING ON!

    ...And also: o PLEASE tell me you're going to this!

    ... 'cause you would be a PERFECT voice for this event. :-)

  15. You're vegan???? But you seem like such a nice person!

  16. I just left the message saying: "You're vegan????? But you seem like such a nice person!!! This remark was said to me incredulously, the last time I told someone I was a vegan.
    Loved reading what you posted here.

  17. Thanks for the laugh Marla! You're good for that...and I need it sometimes.

    I did a post on 60 classic comments vegans hear from nonvegans and a rational response, but mine are not funny....but here's the link:

  18. I'm trans, so I've heard all about the hormones in soy. People like me who have tried concentrated isoflavones from soy still didn't get anywhere. If that weren't the case, I'd *live on* soy.

  19. Omg, I could NOT stop laughing the whole time I was reading this, I have tears coming down my face from laughing so hard, I've heard many I'd these and I still can't get used to people's ignorance! Thanks a lot for sharing, loved this!!!!

  20. Marla I think you hit just about every one of those rationalizations square on the crooked nail head!

    Next to "gOd gave us permission", I hear a lot of "that's what they're here for" excuses. And of course the ever popular "they're already dead, so why not eat them" line.

    What amazes me most though is when I hear "I was raised eating meat"... Well duh! So were 99% of us! We were also raised not to eat zebras, elephants, flamingos or swans... It's just that vegans add a few more friends to the list of "inedible" others.

    You made me smile/laugh again - Thank you! ;)

  21. Insanely awesome!! You have made my day!! ..My week!

  22. Well said, John! And I love that people think that they personally "climbed to top of the food chain," too. Let's put them unarmed in a cage match with a lion and see who walks away from that one. Great point about ecoli.

  23. Yes, our bodies crave all kinds of things that are not so great for us, Raeanne and Delaney...

  24. Thank you and you are welcome, Unknown!

  25. That is so disturbing about the pet goat, Anonymous. YUCK.

  26. Thank you, Tanya! I heart your podcast so much! And I wish I were going to that event in England. It sounds like too much fun.

  27. I've heard that, too, Tina, especially if you substitute "normal" for "nice." :D

  28. Thank you, Butterflies! I look forward to reading it.

  29. I'm so happy, Anonymous. I live to make people laugh.

  30. Thank you, Bea. "What amazes me most though is when I hear "I was raised eating meat"... Well duh!" That is pretty much what I say every time.

  31. My favorite comment ever heard was that killing animals is humane because "otherwise, if they were to roam free, they'd starve to death from lack of food sources. I see hunting as helping the animals not suffer."

    So...the animal looked malnourished and you decided, "That looks delicious!"???

  32. Love it! Thanks for another awesome post.

  33. Marla, I'm a newcomer to your blog and I feel this is Home. Thanks for the giggles!


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