tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post5233057901296231066..comments2023-11-05T03:34:05.463-08:00Comments on The Vegan Street Blog from the Vegan Feminist Agitator: Of Babies and Bath Water: Insistence on Another's Purity is a Losing BattleMarlahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-70050808663175029142011-10-06T09:55:48.897-07:002011-10-06T09:55:48.897-07:00Thanks, Anonymous. I really need to look into Dans...Thanks, Anonymous. I really need to look into Dansko. People love those!Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-76862613781684587602011-10-06T09:54:58.718-07:002011-10-06T09:54:58.718-07:00JOn, thank you so much for your very thoughtful an...JOn, thank you so much for your very thoughtful and generous words. I really appreciate it. What you wrote was very meaningful to me. Thank you.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-35499703643074042322011-10-02T13:35:27.596-07:002011-10-02T13:35:27.596-07:00Sorry, that is Sanita not Sanito!Sorry, that is Sanita not Sanito!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-23204713543989865262011-10-02T13:34:12.701-07:002011-10-02T13:34:12.701-07:00Regarding comfy Vegan shoes: Both Dansko and Sanit...Regarding comfy Vegan shoes: Both Dansko and Sanito offer Vegan Clogs that run about $75 (and up) but last for years. The patent leather are also water proof (at least in my experience). You can find them at Zappo's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-85148711711874758182011-10-01T08:31:17.671-07:002011-10-01T08:31:17.671-07:00Hi :)
I found your blog by using the "Next Bl...Hi :)<br />I found your blog by using the "Next Blog" feature. I normally would not give anything about Veganism a second look, but something about your writing caught my attention. <br /><br />I cannot even begin to claim to be anywhere close to Vegan. In fact, I am fully Omnivore. That said, I gotta say I admire your view. I like the way you write, and even voice your views. You are passionate, committed, and fully stand behind your views. I find that admirable. <br /><br />I read the entire post, and would not for one second discount your views. They are valid. I enjoy the way you present the case of those who become Vegan, then again stray a bit (or a lot). I enjoy the way you present your "fantasy" (as you called it). I suppose if we all took the same approach to the things we were passionate about, we would all be a little more forgiving, and even possibly more loving. Your writing is an inspiration in human-acceptance... even toward those we strongly disagree with. You voice disagreement, yet acceptance. You explain quite well how you understand how any other approach would create an isolation, instead of an inclusion.<br /><br />I cannot claim to agree with a Vegan lifestyle, but I can appreciate you. I can appreciate veganism. I am sure you do not receive Kudos from a committed Omnivore often. But My Kudos, AND Support to you. <br /><br />(No, I am not mocking you. I truly admire, and respect your passionate view.)<br /><br />Thanks for helping me to understand a little bit more about the Vegan Life-style, and what it is truly rooted in. JOn~=:-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02901115117643114926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-51304600302342572942011-09-22T01:36:36.453-07:002011-09-22T01:36:36.453-07:00Ugh, Francesca. That is so hard. I wish I had a ma...Ugh, Francesca. That is so hard. I wish I had a magic wand sometimes. Alas.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-64170986313302703262011-09-22T01:35:32.788-07:002011-09-22T01:35:32.788-07:00Mary - "The thing is, it's not everyone&#...Mary - "The thing is, it's not everyone's aspiration to be a compassionate human being." I share your sigh. This about sums it up.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-70990365863068561332011-09-22T01:34:12.173-07:002011-09-22T01:34:12.173-07:00Oh, Sandy and Raine!
I do not have difficult feet...Oh, Sandy and Raine!<br /><br />I do not have difficult feet to find shoes for and they don't cause me pain but I do know that I also don't have lots and lots of money to spend on them as well. I wish I had some advise for you. As it is, I wear sweatshop constructed shoes that kill my soul a little every time I think about them. Until the world catches up with us, I guess this is what we're stuck with...<br /><br />Thanks for sharing. <br /><br />MarlaMarlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-83237914937459189302011-09-21T08:30:49.802-07:002011-09-21T08:30:49.802-07:00I do agree we need to be welcomingyand encouraging...I do agree we need to be welcomingyand encouraging and I know people who became vegan for health and stayed for the ethics. And even if internally I sigh at my friend who's "vegan" except for eggs, I don't say that to her. I encourage her to learn more about it. And vent the frustrations on vegan message boards that are not public.francescahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14340817971207320926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-3575024706513629512011-09-20T12:33:39.736-07:002011-09-20T12:33:39.736-07:00Sandy, I hear you. I've been vegan for 10 year...Sandy, I hear you. I've been vegan for 10 years and have tried many, many shoes, and almost all of them hurt in one way or another, sooner or later. And I don't even wear a hard-to-fit size. I really don't know what to do; I'm getting to an age where, if I wear the wrong kind of shoes too often, I get pains further up my body (back, hips). I feel that many vegan shoes out there are made for looks, not function. (Like Alternative Outfitters with their endless parade of cutesy, kicky flats.) I'm in Chicago, too, by the way. Every year I think it's going to be the year I find warm, waterproof snow boots (I like the short kind that are like shoes with a high collar) that won't give me foot cramps, but it never works out unless you spend $90 - $100, which I can't. Sorry I have no solution, though.Rainenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-89057286426695456772011-09-20T10:01:01.989-07:002011-09-20T10:01:01.989-07:00Even I don't like to label myself a "vega...Even I don't like to label myself a "vegan" because it makes me appear to be sure about it all.<br /><br />I still think about the right and wrongs of consuming/using animals humanely. Is it wrong or is it just nature?<br /><br />Right and wrong, good and evil are such relative things that people/culture assign values to.<br /><br />But, if we can decide as a whole to be compassionate beings, I think the right thing is to be vegan. The thing is, it's not everyone's aspiration to be a compassionate human being. *sigh*Maryhttp://www.marystestkitchen.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-91904611168789726092011-09-20T09:32:03.556-07:002011-09-20T09:32:03.556-07:00Gosh, thank you for this. I am one who turned to ...Gosh, thank you for this. I am one who turned to veganism for my IBS (and help from Skinny Bitch), but I have the worst time finding shoes to fit my feet. <br /><br />I know, right - shoes?! I mean, what the heck, right? They're just SHOES. Well, not for people like me, people with horribly narrow feet that live in CHICAGO, where I can't even find leather shoes in my width that FIT, and where I can't afford some $400 shoes that are likely not narrow enough (we're talking AAAA here).<br /><br />This includes winter boots, something I'm sure fellow Chicagoans can relate to. What of a vegan to do with this? Do I grit my teeth, buy alpaca socks in the hope that the web site I buy from treat their furry "friends" as members of their families and then hope my rubber boots help keep my uber narrow feet warm and dry???<br /><br />It doesn't come easy.Vegan P90X/Insanity Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10648988503383651409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-38466926450126816452011-09-18T19:19:24.425-07:002011-09-18T19:19:24.425-07:00I understand, Francesca, and I do want to be clear...I understand, Francesca, and I do want to be clear that I do not support using dreadful words like "veganish" or shying away from using the word. I agree that this confuses people, and rightfully so! I do expect that if people are going to call themselves vegan that they maintain the integrity of the word and live honestly. This is more written about people who are exploring veganism, getting their feet in the door, are excited by it but not fully there yet. We need to extend a hand. Thanks so much for your thoughts. I agree with you. <br /><br />About the turkey on Thanksgiving - something Dr. John McDougall does, too - there was some nuance there. When questioned if he was fully vegan, Clinton said, kind of shrugging that he had a little turkey on Thanksgiving, not much. What I read from his response was that it didn't have much appeal to him anymore. Maybe he's been eating a vegan diet ever since? In any case, he reaction was kind of perfect for our cause. <br /><br />I am totally understanding where you are coming from, though, Francesca. We just need to be a little more welcoming when people are interested, that's my main point. Watering it down to something I think might be more palatable, like referring to myself as "veganish" doesn't do it for me. :)<br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts!Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-69297023811606639742011-09-18T19:10:33.855-07:002011-09-18T19:10:33.855-07:00I hear you, Bitt, I really do. I think that as lon...I hear you, Bitt, I really do. I think that as long as people differentiate and says that they are dietary vegans, there is no deception there. Although, damn, I just wish it weren't so hard for people to make the connections. Your method is pretty much the same as mine. :) Thanks for sharing.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-22352205944529404842011-09-18T19:08:25.414-07:002011-09-18T19:08:25.414-07:00I agree, veganelder. I would hope that people woul...I agree, veganelder. I would hope that people would eventually, like, care for deeper reasons but for the immediate now, yes, I would just not want to be killed.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-84049581069876188972011-09-18T19:07:27.447-07:002011-09-18T19:07:27.447-07:00You know I am right there with you, Mikael. This i...You know I am right there with you, Mikael. This is why building that ethical foundation is always necessary. But let's not pull the rug out from under us as we move forward. You are one of the most dedicated vegans I know and I am always inspired by your friendly, welcoming spirit when I am angry at the rest of the world. I appreciate you so much!Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-88950371658345350062011-09-18T19:05:32.983-07:002011-09-18T19:05:32.983-07:00Thanks, Laviyah. You are the perfect example of at...Thanks, Laviyah. You are the perfect example of attracting with your beautiful spirit (not to mention your phenomenal food). :)Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-18781999498757415542011-09-18T19:04:49.714-07:002011-09-18T19:04:49.714-07:00Thank you, JD Mumma, Ami, and I could certainly sa...Thank you, JD Mumma, Ami, and I could certainly say the same thing to you. Thanks for all you do!Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-53802548713347768822011-09-18T19:04:02.747-07:002011-09-18T19:04:02.747-07:00Shannon, I started having vegan Thanksgiving meals...Shannon, I started having vegan Thanksgiving meals with my friends years ago as a supplement to the "other" one and eventually just phased that one out. I couldn't take it anymore and since then, we've all been happy. The omnivores don't want the buzz-kill of vegans at their bacchanal and I don't want the serious sadness of a dead turkey (and various other dead and abused animal products) at dinner. I highly, highly recommend vegan Thanksgiving with friends. Thanksgiving used to be my most dreaded holiday: now I LOVE it.Marlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051769657129028820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-33475461806124319122011-09-17T15:07:08.402-07:002011-09-17T15:07:08.402-07:00I am supportive of people who make changes on the ...I am supportive of people who make changes on the way to veganism and am glad it is getting more attention. BUT many people who say they follow a plant based diet make exceptions, like a former president eating turkey on Thanksgiving and that confuses the issue for people who don't understand veganism. <br /><br />I wonder how many vegans will be asked if Bill Clinton can eat turkey at Thanksgiving, why can't they?francescahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14340817971207320926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-69317772897011845342011-09-17T14:47:04.772-07:002011-09-17T14:47:04.772-07:00Lots to think about. I am happy for anyone to take...Lots to think about. I am happy for anyone to take to veganism, although it is always hard to see people who only embrace the diet still wear leather shoes or products tested on animals. I can talk about my frustrations with my ethically committed vegan friends, but to someone who is moving to a more compassionate lifestyle, I try to be supportive and celebrate where they are and hopefully provide direction for even better choices.bitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07897733975604744859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-20673857094567165482011-09-16T04:08:37.161-07:002011-09-16T04:08:37.161-07:00Let's see...If I were a chicken being I don...Let's see...If I were a chicken being I don't think I would be too concerned about the reason(s) that someone didn't imprison and then kill me. Only that they didn't do it.veganelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05188156008589356984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-79582986194949070442011-09-15T03:24:05.852-07:002011-09-15T03:24:05.852-07:00In a country with a new fad diet every week, there...In a country with a new fad diet every week, there is no doubt that the ethical reasons will keep more people on the path to a less cruel lifestyle, but we must do everything we can to get everyone to not go backwards.Mikaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00729033843345171495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-509866265732136392011-09-14T19:48:01.786-07:002011-09-14T19:48:01.786-07:00Thank you for this Marla. The whole judgmental &qu...Thank you for this Marla. The whole judgmental "vegan is my religion" attitude that some adopt is off putting and defeats the whole purpose of education and outreach.Laviyahhttp://stemartaen.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-799660367320178164.post-62745681917059790152011-09-14T09:42:46.439-07:002011-09-14T09:42:46.439-07:00Good think for humanity your not just dreaming!
Th...Good think for humanity your not just dreaming!<br />Thank you and "keep chipping away at the lies humanity tells"!!!<br />Viva la Vegans!JD Mumma, Ami.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10973570289104130517noreply@blogger.com